Curse

Cuilan · Oct 01, 2013, 08:07 AM // 08:07

Because you know...there's two genders.

Shasgaliel · Oct 01, 2013, 11:38 AM // 11:38

I am for it for the same reason. Breast cancer awereness campaign in a game played mostly by males was .... weird.... if not to say hmmm a bit pointless. Some might have said there was an agenda behind it.

On the other hand Regina and few others from the staff are sometimes introduced as a devoted feminists (or so you can find this on their various websites etc) so the bias towards one particular gender can therefore be easily explained. So even I do support your idea I do not see it happening at all and lack of devs is not the reason....

On a side and not related note - even off topic. Am I the only one who thinks that having exactly the same number of male and female npc characters in gw2 on the same/related positions looks a bit awkward? So that not to give any preference to any gender at all costs and all situations actually makes the other game look dull even ridicoulous?

**cosyfiep** · Oct 01, 2013, 04:02 PM // 16:02

You DO realize that breast cancer is NOT just a female cancer, right?
MEN get it as well--and die from it every year.

and I think there was already a thread about dye for prostate cancer (which by the way a woman can NOT get as we do not even have that gland!)

Shasgaliel · Oct 01, 2013, 08:20 PM // 20:20

Yes I do, it is lower than a 0,01% of male cancer cases so indeed loads. But who cares? Even if it was more it is still pointless in my opinion. And for teenagers for which this game is done it is hardly the most important one.... I can hardly see myself explaining to my 14 year old cousin the importance of mammography or..... While on the other hand take smoking. In the country I come from for the women the most common cancer is the lung one with colon being second and breast third while for men it is prostate, lung being second and colon third. In US (Data from national cancer institute) lung one is the most deadly killing twice more than breast and prostate combined. So why not to do something regarding one which is the most common for both sexes instead of doing something in which one gender is clearly under-represented (US yearly breast cancer deaths 40.000 women to 400 men - I rounded up both)? Lung cancer is often related to smoking, colon cancer to bad eating habits so the things teenagers can actually act upon. I mean you can justify whatever you want but or you are politically correct in all cases or you just promote one gender and its needs over the other. If you do all equal at all cost in one game why promote single gender issues in the other? Sorry I do not like it and those few male cases do not make it equal. I am for the blue dye idea for prostate cancer but as I wrote it ain't happen till people openly representing one gender ideology are running this game - I do not like this fact either. I prefer people who treat all genders the same and not try to promote one over another (whichever it is) or to make everything equal at all cost even where it does not make any sense. You could do some kind of reasonable symmetry. I do not mind having events for breast cancer campaign and pink dyes but I would love to see those baby blue dies for the sake of equality - but If I get your point prostate is sexist while breast is not.... I tend to disagree. I just see one sex promotion ideology behind all of it - breast awareness campaign and how GW2 is done (charr history is the perfect example). You like it or do not mind, I am fine with it. However I do mind and I will not change my view on that. Lets agree to disagree. Sorry for my English....

**cosyfiep** · Oct 01, 2013, 10:07 PM // 22:07

actually I am not promoting anything. (neither is guru---who I do not represent).

Pink day in LA (which started the whole pink dye bit), was done by the people from gwen radio as a way to help with cancer awareness, anet just picked up on it and helped out. If you want to lay blame--->anet for not offering more cancer awareness months for each type of the deadly disease. (My grandmother died of colon cancer--and I dont think it was from bad food habits either as my mother also wound up with colon cancer as well, and my brothers have crohn's disease).

Again gw2...that would be our friends over at anet, and since I do not play that game I have no idea how they are handling it (and dont really need to know either).

Why not just a blanket cancer awareness month? They could make some new crazy neon dye for it and have a vendor for it as well.

and yes, I understand you point of trying to explain diseases that usually happen to older people to the age group that these games were targeted at, but at some point in time, they should learn about them as these cancers arent going any where.

as for lung cancer and smoking...in the usa they still have yet to come out and say they are linked (though we all know they are), so until then, its not as well talked about as it should be. I used to work in Japan--a country where smoking is the norm for men, women (since they raise the kids) usually didnt smoke, this changed recently and now lots of women there have picked up this addiction. Though, the funny side of it is that smoking is not allowed on school property (I taught junior high and high school english while I was there), though MOST of the teachers smoked (and usually found places to hide out on the school ground and smoke--I even caught the vice principal smoking, though he says he was regarding the beautiful bush that his butt was hiding)....they understood that smoking is bad for kids, yet as soon as they graduate high school PROMOTE it in the work place! (yes I am not a fan of smoking either).

I am just glad that thru pure stupid acts of blatant disregard for others that smoking is not allowed in lots of places now in the usa (I know where the idea started to ban smoking in public buildings---idaho, where in the early 90's the statehouse caught fire because some idiot dumped their ashes into a garbage and everyone went home for the weekend...well the taxes payers--of which I was one--had to pay over a MILLION dollars to have that blunder fixed, and that ended smoking in public buildings in idaho,----this caught on in other states).

so no disagreeing here.

Thot · Oct 02, 2013, 08:32 PM // 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosyfiep

You DO realize that breast cancer is NOT just a female cancer, right?
MEN get it as well--and die from it every year.

and I think there was already a thread about dye for prostate cancer (which by the way a woman can NOT get as we do not even have that gland!)

I'm sorry but all women seems to have a prostate, which has same function as for males. It's the organ allowing womens to "ejaculate" (look for "squirting" on adult sites).

And unfortunately women also have prostate cancer, in same proportion as breast cancer for males.

Bristlebane · Oct 02, 2013, 09:06 PM // 21:06

....or... how about a dye for cancer in general. Wether you're male, female, both or none. Because in any case, cancer is a terrible thing and we're just being petty when we consider which type of cancer is more "important". I then vote for black or dark gray (which I of course already know exists in game).

**cosyfiep** · Oct 03, 2013, 01:27 AM // 01:27

The gland in women that does that is called Skene's glands, and it is no where near even as close the size of that male prostate gland (some women do not even have this gland!) and was only recently determined to actually be close functionality to that in the male.

I am for the generic cancer dye, whatever color it might be.

Saphrium · Nov 11, 2013, 03:54 PM // 15:54

This might sounds like a joke but...I can't relate the color baby blue to my prostate.

Cuilan · Nov 12, 2013, 02:02 PM // 14:02

There's already a pink dye, so I would just leave it and the yearly NPC. There should have been much more thought before its addition.

November is considered Movember for men's health and September (at least in the US) is National Prostate Cancer Awareness Month.

People don't seem to like the removal of things.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Nov 13, 2013, 10:24 AM // 10:24

why not both? yes

its nice to get such baby blue dye anyway, be it just as normal one, or for any kind of illness (cancer in this case)

ps. i'm actually looking for a nice combination to make baby blue on assassin's armor :P
and no, blue + white isnt it